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https://www.mlrc.ca/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl General >> Rally >> MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 11th https://www.mlrc.ca/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1170132674 Message started by English on 01/29/7 at 23:51:14 |
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Title: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 11th Post by English on 01/29/7 at 23:51:14 MLRC is proud to present the first: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop When and Where: Date: February 11th Drivers Meeting @ 10:00am Location: Burnt River Off-Road Vehicle Facility http://www.burntriveroffroad.com/ What: This will be a event to test your snow skills, Tune your ability and develop your driving skills. Just under a 2km course on Snow to excite your sideways passion. Cost: $50 per person. This event will be capped at 20 entries and will be taken on a first come first serve basis. The Entry fee is to be paid onsite at registration in cash only. Please email your entry to rallycross@mlrc.ca with your name, telephone number and Car make and model. Regulations and rules will be posted online at www.mlrc.ca (basic rallycross rules will be followed). If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at: rallycross@mlrc.ca CALL FOR WORKERS: MLRC would like to hear from you if you would like to volunteer to help out on the day with timing, or check points or on the work day at the location on the 10th February. Licensed HAM radio operators needed. Don't forget to sign up today to reserve your spot!!! James |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by nhibbert on 01/31/7 at 09:42:40 Just so I know what I'm in for. Is this a "rough" track (plowed motocross tracks) or a relatively smooth track (plowed parking lot)? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by rosswood on 01/31/7 at 10:12:10 There are two tracks. The first, which is certain to be used, is the main road in to the HQ site. It is very smooth and is just under 2.5 km in length. This course would be best described as medium quick to quick with some great turns in it. The second is a specially designed RallyCross track, measuring about 1.7 km in length. It is extremely tight and technical with some neat changes in elevation. At the moment it is quite driveable, but somewhat rough. A good snowfall should fix that. Then the track owners can groom it smooth. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by robin on 01/31/7 at 12:46:07 We tested on the 2.5km in November and it was pretty smooth - with frost/snow it should be even better. Robin |
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Title: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 11th Post by English on 01/31/7 at 14:13:36 MORE SPOTS OPEN!!!!! Due to the amazing amount of people that signed up in the first 24 hours, we have decided to raise the cap from 20 to 35!!! We only have a few slots left, so please email your entry today!! You will receive an email from me confirming your entry with your car number on Thursday 1st Feb. We apploigise in advance if you do not get a entry. CALL FOR WORKERS As the entries go up, we need more help, please email us to let us know you can help out on the day. If a driver brings a worker with them for the day: $20 discount :) rallycross@mlrc.ca Thank you James |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by bratok on 02/06/7 at 12:21:37 are there any spots left open? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by ryan_kristy on 02/06/7 at 13:08:22 you can have my spot i dont have a car to enter into this. i thuoght my car would be ready tomorrow but wont get done until after the weekend. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by English on 02/07/7 at 07:20:37 Spots still open!! We do still have some spots still open. Please email us to register with your name, address, telephone number and car that you are entering. rallycross@mlrc.ca If you can not come, please let us know ASAP, or if you are giving your spot to some one else. Please email us at the email address above. Thank you James |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by mxtrack on 02/07/7 at 12:20:35 :) Hi Guys, My name is Connie from Burnt River Off-Road Vehicle Facility. I just wanted to let you know that my husband Rob is out there grooming the course and driveway for this weekend testing and tuning event. We are suppose to get another 5cm of snow tonight. The weather for this weekend is call for sunny weather. It should be a fun and exciting weekend. I look forward to meeting all of you. Cheers, Connie Greenlaw |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/07/7 at 12:42:58 ;D |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by Nikola on 02/07/7 at 15:27:39 Can the experienced rallyheads who've seen the track let us newbies know a bit more on what to expect? I have little to no real experience on snow - if it's a autocross or rallycross-like place where I can reasonably safely practice and figure things out, awesome! But if the roads are fast and surrounded by trees, and I'm supposed to drift perfectly at 60km/h or something... I may just give my spot to somebody else.... Thanks!! |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by English on 02/07/7 at 15:43:20 This place is perfect to learn to drive on Snow!!! Just like the track in Bancroft but on snow!! These events are disigned for both kinds of people, ones that have never done it before to learn and for those who want to practice. And dont panic, if you stuff it, we have 4x4's on-site to pull you out. As you say yourself: If you understand what you are doing, you aren't learning anything! . James |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/07/7 at 16:31:32 And Nik... you don't have to carry a lot of speed to practice being sideways. Just because you can reach 60km/h on a straight doesn't mean you have to... don't make the day about trying to beat everyone else, make it a day to learn how to handle the car... start slow and work your way up. Heck, see if you can have someone more experienced ride along with you... and ride along with them. If there is time, it might be worth it to have someone experienced drive your car with you in it, explaining how they are driving... then switch places and have them critique how you do. The ice races in Minden have a novice school on the first few weekends where they do just that... someone drives your car with you as a passenger, then you drive with them... I saw huge improvements in my first day from this sort of school. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/07/7 at 16:45:43 James... email sent a few hours ago... want to make sure my spot is saved... any word? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by Nikola on 02/08/7 at 11:25:13 Good to hear - thx guys! :) - No, I'm not planning to compete or go particularly fast - but was wondering if the curves are slight enough that you *have* to go fast in order to slide at all.... Sounds like that's not that case though! |
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Title: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 11th Post by English on 02/08/7 at 13:48:36 www.andrewharvey.ca Andrew Harvey Photography and www.flayovercrest.com has kindly donated the fantastic 2007 Calender for the top two drivers in each Class. Check your email tonight for more updates!!! There are still just a couple of spots left, don't delay, email us today!! rallycross@mlrc.ca James |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by AlexeiS on 02/09/7 at 07:05:47 Just curious, is there going to be any lunch provided? Or is there food/restaurants nearby? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by English on 02/09/7 at 08:43:30 Food Update... Just confirmed yesterday, their will be coffee, Tea and hot chocolate on site in the morning and then Pizza will be served at lunch time. James |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by mr_niteowl on 02/09/7 at 09:05:58 Just a question for us guys that Dolly our Omnis around... WHERE should the Dolly be unloaded and parked for the day? At the road or should I drive right down the driveway to the end? Oh, and where are those 2 unheated Johnny on the Spots located James? Earle |
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Title: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 11th Post by English on 02/09/7 at 10:18:07 Earle, This updates for you... When you get to the location, please drive the full length of the Driveway (2km) to the middle of the of the gounds, this will be the service area, that will have registration and the Johnny on the spots. There will be lots of room to park trailers and dollys. Thank you James (Crusher of Omnis) Drake ;) |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by mr_niteowl on 02/09/7 at 10:39:06 Dear James (Crusher of Omnis) Drake Please park your welded-diff VW in a prominent spot so that I can park the 22 year old open-diff P.O.S. Omni just ahead of it, which, incidentally, will be the same order as our standings at the finish. :P Earle ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 11th Post by English on 02/09/7 at 10:58:30 Sorry it has taken so long to reply, but I had to get up off the floor from laughing so hard... And who said anything about a welded Diff? My 115bhp to your, what, 170bhp, and I can still beat you? And I drive mine to work every day :) See you (in my mirror) on Sunday JD (oh...if it wasn't for that bloody stop box!!) |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/09/7 at 11:24:18 Hmm... James in his DD vs Earle in his hairdryer track queen. Lets just hope that Mike screws up and ditchs the car. ;) |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by mr_niteowl on 02/09/7 at 11:29:17 hahaha I'm crackin up here. If you want to see the Omni in your mirror, you better have a hitch on your VW and tow it up there for me. <subliminal clip> don't stop don't stop don't stop And hey, just 'cause the Omni has a hair dryer on the motor, don't let that scare you. its not a stop box its not a stop box its not a stop box I'm just hoping it will start with that 4 year old gas still rolling around in the tank. dont brake go straight through hit the Loo hit both the Loos brown is a nice colour for a vw |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/09/7 at 14:09:04 Earle... what time you leaving ptbo? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by AlexeiS on 02/12/7 at 07:21:17 Thanks for a great event organizers and workers. It was great to get out there and play again, even if the cobwebs had fully set in ;D Here's pics. If you want originals (3072x2304), e-mail me at astapins AT rogers DOHT com http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k22/StimpyBoy/MLRC%20Snow%20RallyX%20February%202007/ I've got some vids too, including a hideous first run. Those'll go up later tonight. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/12/7 at 09:40:16 Jeeze... all those pics and none of the Audi... :( Awesome day yesterday. And the people who run Burnt River are definitely awesome... look forward to dealing with them again. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by mr_niteowl on 02/12/7 at 10:08:32 Relax Doug, think of it this way...you were going faster than the shutter speed of the camera.... Not very believable is it.... |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by RallyJake on 02/12/7 at 10:10:39 Thanks to all the workers, organizer and owners for putting such a great event. It was a blast searching for grip on slightly icy corners. The access road was a blast to drive on as well. So what day do we need to book off for the next event?? J & P |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by AlexeiS on 02/12/7 at 11:56:33 dtompsett wrote on 02/12/7 at 09:40:16:
Sorry, I couldn't get pics of your car likely because I was running at the time. Same thing for Ryan H. and the rest. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by Lesley on 02/12/7 at 12:20:19 Doug, I got a couple of pictures of your car :) What great fun, thanks for the exciting ride down the "stage' road. I'm a writer, putting together a story on the event. I chatted with a few of you, but it was too bloody cold to talk to everyone. If anybody has anything to say, a short quote about their experience of the event, that I might be able to use, by all means please send it along! My email is: wheelpower@peterboroughexaminer.com. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by knaztech on 02/12/7 at 17:51:57 I took some photos too and will be posting the good ones soon. Andrew was also there - will we get to see any pics, Andrew? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by English on 02/13/7 at 08:50:07 Scores and Times Hi all, Sorry for taking so long in getting these posted, we will get these up as soon as possible. Please remember that a lot of people didn't run a full 4 runs. There will be no "trophies" for this event, but we will be awarding a 2007 Andrew Harvey Photography Calendar to the top two spots in each class. www.andrewharvey.ca www.flatovercrest.com Thank you to all the workers that helped out on the day, these events would not run if it wasn't for you. James |
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Title: My Pics are Up Post by knaztech on 02/13/7 at 18:51:07 My pics are up at http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ken_nazeer/my_photos Click on the Winter Rally-X album. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/16/7 at 08:39:28 James? Alan? Results? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by Wedge on 02/16/7 at 10:00:27 dtompsett wrote on 02/16/7 at 08:39:28:
;D You just can't wait to see your name at the top can ya? ;) |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by Leo on 02/16/7 at 10:41:51 I can't wait either! |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/16/7 at 11:22:02 wrote on 02/16/7 at 10:00:27:
Exactly! |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by English on 02/16/7 at 22:55:06 I am very sorry to all for taking so long with the results. I have emailed them to the webmaster (Alan) and he will post them soon. Keep your eye out for information on the next event ;) JD (not long now Doug) |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by AlanO on 02/18/7 at 13:30:03 Results are up. http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/07results.html |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by Leo on 02/18/7 at 14:28:38 AlanO wrote on 02/18/7 at 13:30:03:
Mda... next time I better do all the runs >:( |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by AlexeiS on 02/18/7 at 16:13:49 I'm reminded of an episode of the Simpsons: "The two sweetest words in the English language! De-fault! De-fault! De-fault!" Seriously though, that's some hideous times even discounting my spin in run 3 :( Looks like there's some work to be done before August! |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by mr_niteowl on 02/18/7 at 16:25:01 Yeah I wish I had done run 3 and 4 in the Dodge Caravan, the first 2 times were interesting... Earle |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by John_Vanos on 02/18/7 at 18:27:41 Im pretty sure I wasnt even driving for every run except the first one!! I was swapping cars with Nate (volvo) and James (golf) I got all 3 drive configurations in a day, it was fun! NEedless to say, not sure these results mean all that much but thatnks to everyone for putting on a GREAT event, truly had a blast!!! |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by AlexeiS on 02/18/7 at 18:59:30 This would have been better to ask AT the event, but... For the AWD guys, how were you handling the tight turns? Were you setting up for them with rotation and "coasting" through? Or were you giving generous throttle to claw your way around? If you watch my vids, I had a lot of trouble at turn 3, the hairpin right, and turn 4, the hairpin left with the huge cones. I just couldn't get anything going there, and I was always pushing to the outside. Even when I tried to keep the rotation going with throttle input, I would either seem to go wide or if I took off the throttle the rotation would stop and understeer set in. How were you handling it? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by dtompsett on 02/18/7 at 19:57:41 enter corner... understeer like crazy... set up for next corner... understeer... oversteer... straighten out... oversteer with big laughs... repeat for rest of course.... I was tossing it around having too much fun... the Audi is an understeer pig! |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by Leo on 02/18/7 at 20:27:51 Set the car, clutch in and pull the e-brake EARLY ... power slide through the rest. |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by RyanHuber on 02/18/7 at 21:14:17 Yeah, I was using a lot of e-brake, but if I went in too hot into that hard right before the big cones, it'd always wash wide. Seemed to happen almost every run, except a couple times when I managed to set it up right and hit the apex close, then it worked. Doing that though meant going wide on the entry where there was all kinds of loose stuff from everyone else taking a tighter entry than me. The big cone corner, well, that was almost always laughable throttle oversteer, I could transition into that really early and be totally sideways if not almost backwards before I got to it ;) |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by Leo on 02/18/7 at 21:37:33 RyanHuber wrote on 02/18/7 at 21:14:17:
Yeah! That sounds soooo familiar) Great fun! |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by jgardhouse on 02/18/7 at 21:53:08 Excuse my ignorance on this one, but whats with the awefull lot of DNS/DNFs??? |
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Title: Re: MLRC WinterRX - Test, Tune and Develop - Feb 1 Post by RyanHuber on 02/18/7 at 22:23:04 Things were run rather informally, and towards the end of the day some competitors (such as myself) ended up missing a run or two because they were doing a run of the driveway. Others, well, I dunno why they chose not to do all their runs. After I got back from doing the driveway I went straight to the short course but it was already being packed up. Meh, thus is life. |
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