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Message started by Grant on 01/20/9 at 22:29:56

Title: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Grant on 01/20/9 at 22:29:56

looked through the rules and the RSO website before posting.

i had heard from a competitor that helmets are available to rent the day of the event, and just wanted to confirm this.

looking forward to my first rally experience  ;D!

thanks

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by RyanHuber on 01/20/9 at 22:32:48

Hi Grant,

Some competitors may have helmets they'd be willing to loan out, but the club doesn't have any to rent. I know the MCO snowcross events in Ottawa have helmets to rent but we do not.

That said, a basic SNELL M2005 rated helmet is probably not all that expensive and you could pick one up at most motorcycle shops.

Hope that helps.

Ryan

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Jeff_Hagan on 01/21/9 at 17:09:39


RyanHuber wrote on 01/20/9 at 22:32:48:
Some competitors may have helmets they'd be willing to loan out, but the club doesn't have any to rent. I know the MCO snowcross events in Ottawa have helmets to rent but we do not.

If that's the case, then what happened to the SA-95 helmet I donated to the club as a loaner?

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by RyanHuber on 01/21/9 at 17:40:42

Jeff, who did you give it to? When was that? I've never heard of this helmet!

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Yopofun on 01/21/9 at 18:10:09

If you're talking about the mlrc rally this weekend in Bancroft, I have a Snell M2005 helmet that I'll be using. Its about a medium...its a full face, but when I'm not using it, I'm sure you could borrow it.

Speaking of which, is there anything against driving with a driver side sideview mirror? I'm working on getting mine replaced after it was hit, but just in case I don't get it replaced in time, I want to make sure I can still race this weekend.

ps, bundle up, because its supposed to be COLD in Bancroft this weekend!

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Slowpoke on 01/21/9 at 23:20:45

I hope to attend.  Any important notes for newbies to the Fish and Game club location?  Such as, no access to washrooms, bring food, etc.?

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by jgardhouse on 01/21/9 at 23:24:21


Slowpoke wrote on 01/21/9 at 23:20:45:
I hope to attend.  Any important notes for newbies to the Fish and Game club location?  Such as, no access to washrooms, bring food, etc.?


I won't be making it out this time, but:

I think the pizza lunch is the same as always... Water juice and coffee provided onsite. Washrooms, heated areas to warm up... Luxury!

There is a gas station/convenience store, literally across the road from the entrance.

And the track is pretty bitchin' too!

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by RyanHuber on 01/21/9 at 23:27:15

Hey Steve,

We're going to have pizza lunch delivered, and there are drinks there for a small donation. There are washrooms inside.

The entrance to the club is just north of the Esso station on hwy 28 south of town, on the opposite side. If you get to the tire shops you've gone too far.

The course itself is a little bit of a walk/drive from the building, a couple hundred meters maybe, though other than space to stage upcoming cars there probably isn't room to park down there if you want to spectate.

Are you bringing the STi or the legacy?

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Jeff_Hagan on 01/22/9 at 10:48:25


RyanHuber wrote on 01/21/9 at 17:40:42:
Jeff, who did you give it to? When was that? I've never heard of this helmet!

I'm trying to remember who I gave it to.  Maybe Bryn?  Maybe James?  Maybe Anthony?  Someone involved in organizing the rallycrosses at the time, anyhow.  Unfortunately, I'm having trouble remembering; it was several years ago.

When SA-95 stopped being legal for performance rallying (when was that?  2005 or 2006?) I had no more use for it for co-driving, so I asked someone at the club if they could use it for rallycross as a loaner; they said yes, so I gave it to them at a club meeting... I just can't remember who I gave it to.

It's a plain white Bell Mag 4.  I think I peeled my name off it, but It probably still has remnants from the adhesive where I removed the Terraphone mic boom.  It may still have a small Pikachu sticker under the visor as well (long story).

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Anthony_T on 01/22/9 at 11:54:13

Jeff - donating a helmet was a nice idea, Thanks!
Alas, it didn't get passed on through me.  



Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by English on 01/22/9 at 12:25:39

i do not recall getting a helmet from you....Sorry Jeff.


Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Jeff_Hagan on 01/22/9 at 13:34:54

Thanks, guys.  Yeah, like I said, I can't remember who in the club I gave it to.  If it wasn't either of you, then I'd say the most likely person is Bryn, but that's still just an educated guess.

I'd forget my head if it wasn't attached.   :(

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by brynepp on 01/22/9 at 16:46:57

Sorry guys but I don't remember any helmet being donated but, then again memory is short and fickle.  Trying to think back.... arrg!

Jeff, your note the only one who'd forget their head if it wasn't attached..... :-/

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Jeff_Hagan on 01/22/9 at 17:03:37

Hmm.  So not Bryn either.  I have no idea, then.

So... if anyone reading this finds a Pikachu-adorned helmet in their basement and doesn't know how it got there, now you have a reason to go to the rallycross!  :D

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Robin_Fleguel on 01/22/9 at 17:49:32

Just bought a full face M2005 at Royal for $70 - a bunch more still there as of Jan 21
Robin

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by nhibbert on 01/23/9 at 19:15:30

Anyone check the lost-and-found at the Musket?

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Slowpoke on 01/24/9 at 09:24:44

Thanks Ryan.  I was going to bring the STi, but it's not quite ready.  I can't bring the Legacy... the rear struts are original and have 230,000km on them.  That has to remain my reliable daily driver for working in town.

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Alexei S on 01/24/9 at 17:51:56

I changed the oil in the WRX, and in this darn cold that's all I'm going to do. I'm ready to go, for better or worse  ;)

Bundle up!

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by unggthat on 01/26/9 at 11:59:03

I think that helmet is in my basement here in Ohio!  One problem solved!  Alan Ockwell bestowed it to me a while back and it moved to Ohio with me.  If anyone wants to come to Ohio to pick it up, they'd be welcome to.  I am hoping to get into the modest Ohio rallycross scene in the not-so-distant future, but if there's a need for it up north, I'll leave it with Andrew Harvey next time I'm up there.


Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Grant on 01/29/9 at 13:42:26

again, looked through the rules first and didnt see anything about studded tires. are they allowed?

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by dtompsett on 01/29/9 at 14:58:43


Grant wrote on 01/29/9 at 13:42:26:
again, looked through the rules first and didnt see anything about studded tires. are they allowed?


As far as I know... yes.  Rallyx is pretty much a free-for-all.  Guys run winter tires in the summer, rally winter tires in the winter, winter tires in the winter, rally gravel tires in the summer...

If you can get your hands on a set of studded tires, why not.  Generally speaking, the studs protrude so little, that they really won't do much at all.  Not like ice racing where the surface is smooth and hard.

Now... if you can get hold of some proper rally studded snow tires... tall and narrow... with some rally spikes... thats a different story.

Got a source for studded tires in Southern Ontario?  I'm still trying to find a stud gun to stud my own tires... since I live in Northern Ontario. ;)  

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Daniel_Buehler on 01/29/9 at 15:25:38


dtompsett wrote on 01/29/9 at 14:58:43:
Got a source for studded tires in Southern Ontario?  I'm still trying to find a stud gun to stud my own tires... since I live in Northern Ontario. ;)  


Yes. Northway Tire will stud tires for you. They are located in Schomberg, just north of hwy9 and hwy27. Tell them Daniel sent you. It's a family run shop - Great people! Lots of people were driving out to them from Quebec this year. They had the best prices on snow tires because of the new law.

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by gully on 01/29/9 at 16:23:33

I would check with organizers about studded tires. My take would be as the rules don't say you can then you CANNOT

Depending on  track conditions there could be a considerable advantage

I would not assume from anything posted here that you can until Series Organizer give his blessing

Pete g

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by English on 01/30/9 at 10:02:03

STUDDED TYRES.


These are NOT allowed.

We are sanctioned by RSO and CARS and they are not allowed under their rules and then not under our rules.

Thank you
James

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by dtompsett on 01/30/9 at 11:21:51

hypothetical question... but if one was to hold a rallyx (or a performance rally) in Northern Ontario, sanctioned under RSO/CARS rules... would studded tires be permitted?  

Another...  if a navigational rally was organized in Northern Ontario... technically, there is no reason why a vehicle registered in Northern Ontario couldn't run studded tires.  But a vehicle from Southern Ontario... it's questionable.  Studded tires are permitted in Northern Ontario, and northern Ontario vehicles are permitted to drive into Southern Ontario with studded tires (except in navigational rallies, where an organizer can say "no studded tires allowed") ... but is a vehicle from Southern Ontario permitted to run them in Northern Ontario?  




Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Anthony_T on 01/30/9 at 17:13:35

I don't the law makes provisions for a vehicle from S.Ont to run the studded tyres while in N.Ont.  Maybe I'm wrong - I'd love to be wrong on that point.

As for entering rallies using studded tyres.  Even though it may be legal for residents of N.Ont to use them on streets anywhere in the province - I think it would be unsportsmanlike to exercise this recently granted privilege in an event.  If the laws were the same for the entire province then I think it should be permitted.  (I hope someone is lobbying the gov't to allow the "new" studs to be used in all of Ont.)

signed frustrated N.Ont resident stranded in Toronto.

Anthony

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Grant on 01/30/9 at 18:34:59


James Drake wrote on 01/30/9 at 10:02:03:
STUDDED TYRES.


These are NOT allowed.

We are sanctioned by RSO and CARS and they are not allowed under their rules and then not under our rules.

Thank you
James


cool, thanks for the reply james. im just trying to explore ways to make my crappy tires actually get some traction for the next rallycross. guess ill just have to drive better  ;)

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by DaveC on 01/30/9 at 18:59:07


Anthony_T wrote on 01/30/9 at 17:13:35:
I don't the law makes provisions for a vehicle from S.Ont to run the studded tyres while in N.Ont.  Maybe I'm wrong - I'd love to be wrong on that point.

As for entering rallies using studded tyres.  Even though it may be legal for residents of N.Ont to use them on streets anywhere in the province - I think it would be unsportsmanlike to exercise this recently granted privilege in an event.  If the laws were the same for the entire province then I think it should be permitted.  (I hope someone is lobbying the gov't to allow the "new" studs to be used in all of Ont.)

signed frustrated N.Ont resident stranded in Toronto.

Anthony


I was always looking to take advantage of this, even if Anthony thinks it is unsportsmanlike  ;D, however I think if you check RSO rules they are not permitted regardless of where you live OR where the rally is run.

On Doug's point, I think the ability to run studs legally is based on the owner's address. If N. Ont. legal, if S. Ont. illegal.

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by jgardhouse on 01/30/9 at 20:09:46

I think as long as your not running these puppies, you'll be okay... If your using proper street studs, its unlikely it will go unnoticed (on the road, not the track, Dave ;))



Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by Grant on 02/01/9 at 22:36:02

oh my god. how badass would you feel rolling up to a rally with those? 150 for the set is pretty cheap too

Title: Re: quick RSO rallycross question
Post by dtompsett on 02/02/9 at 09:52:55

Only problem with those... they are only really good on bare ice.  Put a bit of snow between the tire and the ice, and the studs can't get any bite through.

Thats why true stud winter-rally tires are tall, narrow, with deep blocks and tall studs.

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