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Message started by mikeski on 10/28/9 at 20:39:21

Title: Looking to get into Rally Racing
Post by mikeski on 10/28/9 at 20:39:21

Hey guys, I'm currently 20 years old I'm young but I've always wanted to rally race and now I have some money kickin around for this expensive hobbie. I have around $12,000 for a rally car, my uncle owns a bodyshop / is a mechanic so that helps out. I just wanted to know if anyone could give my some pointers where to start/ get into the sport? What car can you use etc?

Pretty much I've tryed to research and from what I got is, you need a 1st AID/CPR cert which I have and a racing suit/helmet etc etc

Things I'm looking for are
What Car can I use 4cly, 6cly, 8cly Turbo/Non Turbo FWD,AWD,RWD?

Dose the car need a roll cage etc?

Pretty much I'm asking for a helpin hand for someone to tell me how to build the car to the rules and just have some fun.

Cheers Mike

Title: Re: Looking to get into Rally Racing
Post by Yopofun on 10/28/9 at 21:08:02

Hey Mike,

What you will need all depends on what type of rally racing you want to get into.

MLRC puts on rally-x races through out the year, and all you need for it is any road worthy vehicle (ie won't blow up in flames or something like that) and a Snell rated helmet.

If you're looking to get into the higher performance rallies, such as Tall Pines, or the Black Bear Rally, you'll need a car with a roll-cage, along with some higher requirements as far as equipment goes, as I believe, but could be wrong, I think you need a hans-device and some other safety equipment.

You can use AWD,FRD,RWD turbo's and non-turbo's cars. The difference is what class you will be in.

My personal opinion would be to do a year of the rally-x races and maybe some navigational rallies. I'm not sure where you live, but if you spend the next year going to all the MLRC and the Ottawa club rally-x races and that would give you some good experience, not break the bank, and see how much you really want to get into it.

Hope some of that helps.

Title: Re: Looking to get into Rally Racing
Post by Jeff_Hagan on 10/29/9 at 10:45:10


mikeski wrote on 10/28/9 at 20:39:21:
Hey guys, I'm currently 20 years old I'm young but I've always wanted to rally race and now I have some money kickin around for this expensive hobbie. I have around $12,000 for a rally car, my uncle owns a bodyshop / is a mechanic so that helps out. I just wanted to know if anyone could give my some pointers where to start/ get into the sport? What car can you use etc?

The rules will let you enter just about any make or model of car you want, but some are more practical than others.

I highly suggest coming out to some events to see how things work.  It seems from your post that you're interested in performance rallying (closed stage roads, fully prepped car, go as fast as you can) vs. rallycross (course laid out in a field/gravel pit/what-have-you, no cage required, really twisty and technical course) or navigational rallying (on public roads, no special car prep, navigational challenge and NOT a race).

Assuming that's what you're after, I highly suggest coming out to several rallies to see how things work and to talk to people.  The next one on the calendar is MLRC's own Rally of the Tall Pines (www.tallpinesrally.com).  Volunteering for the event is a really good way to see how things work (and I know they'd appreciate the extra help), but even just checking out the service area and talking to the crews would help you learn what you should and shouldn't do.

I know a lot of people suggest buying your first car, but in case your heart is set on building it, here's the rulebook:http://www.carsrally.ca/CARSRally/Default.aspx?tabid=92

It's the official word on requirements for things like roll cages, belts, seats, safety equipment, etc.  Remember, though, that the rules only tell you the bare minimum to be legal.  You'll probably want to go over and above the requirements of the rules if you want your car to last... which is where talking to other competitors can really help.

Also, make sure to keep in mind the car class rules.  They spell out what modifications are allowed or prohibited in each car class.


mikeski wrote on 10/28/9 at 20:39:21:
Pretty much I've tryed to research and from what I got is, you need a 1st AID/CPR cert which I have and a racing suit/helmet etc etc

For performance rallying, you'd need a regional rally competition licence to start out.  To get one of those, you need:

- membership in a CARS-affiliated club (e.g. Maple Leaf)
- medical exam
- first aid certification (minimum Emergency First Aid w. CPR)

Once you finish two regional events, you can upgrade to a national licence, which would allow you to run national rallies.

In terms of personal equipment, you'd need:

- driving suit (specs are in the rulebook)
- helmet (specs are in the rulebook, but no motorcycle helmets... i.e. no "M" or "DOT"-rated helmets)
- FIA-approved head and neck restraint (i.e. either a HANS or a Hutchens Hybrid Pro)

For rallycross, I'm not sure of the exact requirements, but they're in the rulebook.


mikeski wrote on 10/28/9 at 20:39:21:
Things I'm looking for are
What Car can I use 4cly, 6cly, 8cly Turbo/Non Turbo FWD,AWD,RWD?

You can use pretty much anything you want, but some cars just won't be practical for rallying.  Engine size, turbo/non-turbo and number of driven wheels will determine which class your car ends up in.


mikeski wrote on 10/28/9 at 20:39:21:
Dose the car need a roll cage etc?

For performance rallying, yes.  For rallycross or navigational rallying, no.


mikeski wrote on 10/28/9 at 20:39:21:
Pretty much I'm asking for a helpin hand for someone to tell me how to build the car to the rules and just have some fun.

Well, the rules are in the link I gave, but they're not the end of the story.  It's hard to get a sense of how to build a rally car properly without some experience.  I'd really suggest you come out to rallies, see what the cars go through and see what everyone else is running and how they do things.  That can mean volunteering for the event, helping out a team as service crew, or if you're so inclined, co-driving.

It's always cool to see more competitors in the sport, but I want you to stay.  It's a lot better if you learn what the potential pitfalls are before you start building a car.

Title: Re: Looking to get into Rally Racing
Post by Jump Into Big Jump on 10/29/9 at 13:25:53

I would suggest you buy a car already set up. I used up a lot of cash on a project that didn't pan out.  I would suggest the MLRC Rally crosses though I haven't been to one yet but I plan to attend all of them next year. Good luck

Maybe we can get a nice rivalry going  ;)


I would suggest you try to get your hands on an AWD Talon or an old Legacy/Impreza. You don't want to go so extreme that you put yourself in a class where your driving the car past it's limits and your own. Dangerous ;) You have to know where the balance between being fast and not endangering yourself or other people is. Like mentioned before try out the Rallycross series

Title: Re: Looking to get into Rally Racing
Post by Phil D on 10/29/9 at 18:29:34

Mike, I sent you a PM.  Come and crew at Pines and see what its all about.  Cheers

Title: Re: Looking to get into Rally Racing
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