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Message started by nnarini on 09/30/10 at 21:31:37

Title: Rally cross jump?
Post by nnarini on 09/30/10 at 21:31:37

I totally agree with what you have said.
I was not there and therefore can't comment.
Unfortunately, I left my email open at a place where others could access it.
Apparently one of my (non-rally) friends thought this would be funny.
I have informed them that they are no longer welcome at any events I attend.

I apologize sincerely if I have offended anyone.
I would never intend to take advantage of any volunteer that helps make it possible for us to rally.

Nicola Narini

Title: Re: Rally cross jump?
Post by RyanHuber on 09/30/10 at 21:54:59

I'm president of the club, so I can't reply to you as I'd like to, but obviously that post was aimed at me. I just want you to know that after the test day I hadn't spoken to Ross about the jump at all, and in fact I wasn't at the rallycross on Sunday and never suggested the jump be touched, so I suggest you get your facts straight before you go slamming me.

Title: Re: Rally cross jump?
Post by rosswood on 10/01/10 at 07:30:54

First of all, I must say that I am very disappointed with the initial post in this string. It is highly uncharacteristic of what I would have come to expect from the writer, so I am going to let it go as a once only situation of poor judgement. Mud-slinging is uncalled for.

Let's get the facts straight. The idea of adding a jump in the Golton stage was 100% mine. I thought that it would add some excitement for the spectators. It is not made primarily for the competitors. The typical best photos of rally cars show them in the air. Anyone who knows the Pines route knows that there are countless much bigger jumps out there on the stages where the competitors can get their thrills, but the spectators don't get to see those. So I wanted to add a jump, but it had to be a 'friendly' jump that would not be a car-breaker. On the Test Day we determined that the jump was fine the way we had built it for a fast car driven aggressively; however a slower car or one driven less aggressively tended to land heavily on the nose. So on Sunday we extended the flat 'table top' of the jump a bit to eliminate that problem, then tested it with about six cars that were at the RallyCross. It worked. All landed pretty evenly on four wheels with no damage.

The entry ramp to the jump was not changed at all, except that the top of the jump is actually a few inches higher, not lower as suggested. A fast car driven enthusiastically i.e. without lifting, will fly just as high and far as Nick did in the photo on the front page of the Pines website. Such cars will in no way be affected by the change we made, as they will not even touch the flat table top. However a slower car will have a smoother landing. So to suggest that the jump has been 'neutered' is absolutely incorrect.

A good spectator stage must be created so that all cars can go hard and put on a good show without fear of damaging the car. That is what we have tried to do with this jump.

Title: Re: Rally cross jump?
Post by nnarini on 10/04/10 at 17:05:19

As I am leaving for a camping trip north of Thunder Bay next week, I wanted to take the chance now to clarify some things again.

I'm sorry to everyone who was offended by the first post. I want to make sure that it is known that that was not me and I do not share in any of those opinions expressed in that post. I made the mistake of leaving my account open at a public computer and someone took advantage of that mistake. I won't be doing that again any time soon.

I would never criticize or make fun of anyone like that, especially in a public setting like this. If I have an issue with someone or something, I go about solving it in a civilized and politically correct manor. I talked to Ross about the jump the other day and he said it was only improved on based on suggestions made by John Buffum. I would never pretend to know even half as much as those two gentlemen. I trust and respect Ross enough to know that he will take care of anything rally related in a way that benefits everyone.

Thanks,
Nick

Title: Re: Rally cross jump?
Post by Leo on 10/15/10 at 05:03:24

I have no interest to get involved in what you guys are talking about (rally family will always be a rally family), but I would like to voice my huge thanks to Ross for thinking like this:

rosswood wrote on 10/01/10 at 07:30:54:

The idea of adding a jump in the Golton stage was 100% mine. I thought that it would add some excitement for the spectators. It is not made primarily for the competitors. The typical best photos of rally cars show them in the air. Anyone who knows the Pines route knows that there are countless much bigger jumps out there on the stages where the competitors can get their thrills, but the spectators don't get to see those.

with people like that Canadian rallying is safe!