Post by QuickSilver on 01/09/11 at 13:55:03
I appologize for it taking me so long to get some pictures, but here they are.
The pictures were taken at about 1pm today
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https://www.mlrc.ca/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl General >> Rally >> 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship https://www.mlrc.ca/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1291351078 Message started by English on 12/02/10 at 23:37:58 |
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Title: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 12/02/10 at 23:37:58 With great pleasure, I bring you the 2011 Championship with returning sponsor FourStar Motorsport. There have been some small changes, but none of the awesomeness has been taken away. Looking forward to seeing some great racing once again come rain or shine in Bancroft, Ontario. Website up: The website has been updated to include all the information for 2011, the online registration is not however up and running yet, but hopefully very soon. http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/ Dates:
New This year:
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Title: Re: Save the Dates: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycrosses Post by xrian on 12/03/10 at 09:06:05 Got 'em marked on my calendar James. Thanks If I can come up with 4 gravel tires I just might bring the XR out for some fun unless it is sold by then. |
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Title: Re: Save the Dates: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycrosses Post by Yopofun on 12/03/10 at 15:10:16 Hey James, Are we gonna find out about the new changes, if any, when the website comes up? Tim |
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Title: Re: Save the Dates: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycrosses Post by JFrancis on 12/11/10 at 04:01:12 I will be running the Neon in January. Can't wait :D |
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Title: Re: Save the Dates: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycrosses Post by English on 12/14/10 at 00:02:22 Yopofun wrote on 12/03/10 at 15:10:16:
There you go.... |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 12/14/10 at 14:43:07 Thanks James, you're the best! I'll stop spreading all those horrible rumors about you now ::) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Donnie on 12/14/10 at 19:46:25 Never trust a man who wears womens clothes...................... |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 12/14/10 at 21:20:07 How did you know I.... QUICK! Look over there! *runs away* |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Jason K on 12/16/10 at 20:13:35 The dates on the rallycross "home" page are still the dates from last year but say they are for 2011, but its not possible since they all end up being Mondays. I realize that the proper dates are located in the top bar, and here and such, just thought I'd point that out. Wouldn't want to confuse any potential new people. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 12/17/10 at 00:00:07 Was in Bancroft today for a couple of meetings with Town officials and then visited the RallyCross course. It is a beautiful untouched 20 cm of fresh snow. Unfortunately I was in my 2WD car, so could not drive it. Also unfortunately I forgot to take my camera. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by QuickSilver on 12/17/10 at 12:29:28 Are you interested in some pictures of the RallyCross course Ross? Im sure I could stop over and snap a few pictures of it if you would like |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 12/17/10 at 19:09:10 Sure, I think people would like to see it. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by QuickSilver on 01/09/11 at 13:55:03 I appologize for it taking me so long to get some pictures, but here they are. The pictures were taken at about 1pm today |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by AndrewS on 01/09/11 at 16:49:33 I have run this course for the summer events but have never run a winter event so I'm not sure what conditions will be like. I have access to the following tires but don't really want truck four sets with spares all the way to Bancroft. Michelin C5 rally snows, Michelin X-Ice, Blizzaks, and Rally gravel tires. What two sets would be the mose usefull, considering a seasonal, below freezing day in Bancroft on a snow covered course? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 01/09/11 at 22:10:15 Probably the middle 2 - Blizzaks and X-ice. The C5's might work, but they normally clear some of the snow. Definitely not gravels. I have heard the harden up and you would be better with all-seasons. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 01/10/11 at 22:54:24 January Update v1.0 Registration Live Registration is now live, even though the website is not updated: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/register/ New Prices: Don't forget the new prices, please sign up online if you are thinking of coming as it does cut down on the time at registration. There is also the self declaration forms for you to download and bring those with you :)
Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by jesse j on 01/11/11 at 03:48:02 hey is there any of you that live in the fenelon area? id really love to register and sign up, but unfortunately i dont have insurance atm :P so maybe i could get a ride with someone for the January event? also, would any1 be willing to "show me the ropes" that lives in the area? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 01/12/11 at 19:50:24 January Update v1.1 Entry List Live http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/entrylist/ Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Wedge on 01/15/11 at 14:49:33 Someone remind me, what's the rule on studded tires at the winter rallyx events? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by tom on 01/15/11 at 15:28:29 I will not be able to bring the bmw to next event. So perhaps I could lend a hand on Sunday. Let me know somebody Since the The Gin drinking English man is getting sunburned. I really would miss the pizza if I was not there |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by AndrewS on 01/17/11 at 07:55:27 Early weather report for Sunday is calling for a high of -10C and cloudy. Also supposed to snow all during the week leading up to the race. Can't wait! Also, what tire pressures would you run in Blizzaks in a FWD card? I'm guessing in the winter events you don't have to run high pressures like in the summer, as the ruts should be greatly reduced. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 01/17/11 at 08:23:55 I'd run a high PSI personally, as I've found that depending on the icy-ness, you'll slide into the side of snowbanks and can get dirt and little sticks in between the rim and tire. Its happened to me and a few of the other guys a couple times last year. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Donnie on 01/17/11 at 09:27:08 We run tubes,with the lowest pressure possible 22/25psi and haven't pulled one of in years. bring a pump so you can let the air out and clean out any debris around the bead,short stems are better.....Without tubes maybe five pounds less than manufacturers suggested pressure.Higher pressures= less traction, either way without tubes you run the risk of pulling tires off rims,so bring spares...... |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 01/17/11 at 13:04:20 I am planning to go up to Bancroft on Thursday to prepare the course. After I return I will post a report and photos, but you can count on great winter conditions. Tom, for sure we can use your help. I will send you a message with details. Re Fenelon area, contact me at ross@tallpinesrally.com |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by QuickSilver on 01/17/11 at 13:08:04 Ross, if your interested get ahold of me. I should be free Thursday for the most part of the day and would be willing to give you a hand |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 01/17/11 at 19:25:50 PM sent. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Mech on 01/18/11 at 08:35:13 Does anyone know if the clubhouse is open and heated? Just wondering if there's somewhere warm for people to hang out if they get cold? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 01/18/11 at 09:06:01 It should be open. I've never been to an event where it was closed, and yes, it is heated. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by corywannamaker on 01/19/11 at 19:17:13 Is there going to be a class 5 for the "pro" drivers like the last few or last event last year? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Donnie on 01/19/11 at 19:46:50 Doh......... |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by CrazyLeo on 01/20/11 at 11:27:29 I can't find the info as to when if the driver's meeting and the start? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Donnie on 01/20/11 at 11:33:13 0900 Registration Open 0945 Registration Closes 1000 Drivers Meeting 1010 Parade Lap SS 1 to start directly after Parade lap Lunch severed about 1300 |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by CrazyLeo on 01/20/11 at 11:59:53 Donnie wrote on 01/20/11 at 11:33:13:
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Donnie on 01/20/11 at 13:36:56 I was starting to wonder if there was going to any other class 4 cars there. Kinda the same feeling as running a RWD class :) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dean Campbell on 01/20/11 at 14:15:09 Donnie wrote on 01/20/11 at 13:36:56:
Hmm, really? Could be I'd have a shot at top 3 overall then... too bad I'll be rallying in Quebec. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 01/20/11 at 18:00:23 Just returned from preparing the RX course in Bancroft. Conditions are amazing. Photos to follow. The course had not been touched since Tall Pines, so there was about 30 cm of snow. I was making it through fine until I got into a deep drift at the far end. I dug my way out, but only made about one length of the truck before I got high centred again, so I called my buddies at the Town of Bancroft and four trucks showed up within five minutes. Once I got out, I drove the course about a dozen times to clear it. We will drive it a bunch more times on Sunday AM before competition starts. The course is mostly quite smooth with a few icy spots. It will be like the day a year ago when the coditions kept changing all day as the cars cleared off the snow. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dean Campbell on 01/20/11 at 18:09:38 Ross Wood was up preparing the RX course for competition and sent some photos along for everyone to check out. He plans to post a report later. Enjoy the photos.    
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by jesse j on 01/20/11 at 18:58:35 dam, that sure is beautiful. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by dtompsett on 01/20/11 at 19:44:53 Hey Ross... Princess Auto has their heavy duty recovery straps on sale this week. ;) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 01/20/11 at 20:09:41 Those are excellent straps - already have one and highly recommend them to anyone who needs one. Way better than a typical tow strap. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 01/20/11 at 20:31:27 How much are they? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by dtompsett on 01/20/11 at 22:27:34 2" x 20ft recovery strap... max vehicle weight 9,000lbs... $24.99 (reg $36). (pretty sure this is the strap I normally use... although it might be the 3" x 20ft strap... 13,500lbs)... they are great straps, but you need to pick up heavy duty clevis' and hooks to go along with it. 6" x 30ft recovery strap... max vehicle 27,000lbs!!!!! $89.99.... not meant for little cars. ;) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by CrazyLeo on 01/20/11 at 22:46:22 rosswood wrote on 01/20/11 at 18:00:23:
Try not to polish it too much ;) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Justadrive on 01/21/11 at 11:55:22 rosswood wrote on 01/20/11 at 18:00:23:
Compared to last year Ross, can we see the course looking more like a snowy road this year rather than a "track" with severe ruts? In other words will either the bucket or a plow be "flattening" the course out? Last year if we went out of the ruts at all we were stuck. If the course is flat we can use the road width properly. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 01/21/11 at 14:16:23 Justadrive wrote on 01/21/11 at 11:55:22:
Oh just get some AWD :P Mind you, it would be nice not having to add an extra hour to the day while waiting to pull people out of the snowbanks ::) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 01/21/11 at 19:35:20 It will be snow driving for the first while, but as the cars run on it, it will clear off and become icy. The ruts didn't seem to be too bad most places. There is one spot where I am changing the course to avoid a couple of big frozen humps. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by steve roberts on 01/21/11 at 20:12:07 Hi , I was planning on coming on Sunday to take some photos of the Rallycross.... Any problems or special requirements to do this? Thanks Steve |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 01/21/11 at 20:37:59 Don't get in the way of a car when its coming around the track and don't stand on the outside of a corner, and that's pretty much it. You don't need a "Pass" or anything special like that but I'd suggest snowpants and big boots from the amount of snow that is out there. Tim |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by steve roberts on 01/21/11 at 20:45:42 Thanks for the info, Yeah I figured there would be a bit of snow, Seeya Steve |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 01/21/11 at 22:46:27 No problem re taking photos. Just go inside when you arrive and sign a waiver. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by CrazyLeo on 01/21/11 at 23:43:30 steve roberts wrote on 01/21/11 at 20:45:42:
dress for -50 C! |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by steve roberts on 01/22/11 at 06:29:53 Thanks everyone yeah I think its gonna be a cold day! Having never been out there , What are the roads into the track normally like? From what I can tell racing starts just after ten? What time is it normally done ? Thanks Steve |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 01/22/11 at 09:32:54 January Update v2 OMG it is Cold!!! I did just get back from Barbados, but it really is going to be cold tomorrow!! Looking forward to a great race with lots of entries! Some new faces and some old (Don, looking at you there bud) The Fish and Game Club will be open all day to keep warm. Ross and the Bancroft team have done a fantastic job on the track! Ride with CrazyLeo! MLRC and CrazyLeo are continuing to support local Bancroft events. For $40 you can ride with Leo and the money raised will go towards the Bancroft Dog Sled Races. Each month I hope to bring you a ProDriver and a different local Bancroft Charity! There will also be a in car video to keep as well!! See you all tomorrow!! Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Donnie on 01/22/11 at 09:57:45 Well it's truly an honor to referred to as a "bud" James, things are looking up for us, Hell !!!,we'll be practically neighbors soon :) Anyway since we may get 6 runs if that...... Leo may well be overwhelmed with people wanting a chance to run with "Pro" driver, and donate some cash to a good cause. If this is the case, some may be willing to run with a "seasoned" (old) driver, I'd be up for that, for maybe a little less than Leo's looking for. I don't require any damage deposits...... :) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Mech on 01/22/11 at 10:27:57 Donnie wrote on 01/22/11 at 09:57:45:
I would be game for a smaller donation to ride with a 'seasoned' driver :) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by 2000 Impreza on 01/22/11 at 10:38:51 Just so everyone knows how cold it may be. The weathernetwork.com says the high is going to be -21°C with a low of -30°C (Plus wind chill!!!!) Dress warm everyone! |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by AndrewS on 01/22/11 at 12:28:44 -21 degrees!?!?! Sounds like some of you faster Class 1 guys should stay home. Too cold for you. ;) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Donnie on 01/22/11 at 12:43:45 Well you won't have to worry about the I-Mark this time, Mikes sick, and he didn't quite finish it. So we're only running the class 4 car.... |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Wedge on 01/22/11 at 17:20:45 AndrewS wrote on 01/22/11 at 12:28:44:
Yeah! All you fast Class 1 guys should stay home. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by QuickSilver on 01/23/11 at 00:07:55 Its been snowing lightly here ( in Bancroft ) off and on most of the day. I would guess that we have got another maybe 2 inches of snow but its just light and fluffy. To anyone coming tomorrow, bring the warmest clothes you got, then wear the second warmest under that, its just plain COLD here |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 01/23/11 at 14:18:29 I hope you guys are having fun in the COLD! I am staying home. I hope to catch the Feb. one. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 01/23/11 at 22:55:17 Dave, despite the cold, it was a great day. Driving conditions were awesome. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 01/23/11 at 23:32:31 I just want to send out a huge thanks to all the volunteers that braved the cold and helped put on the event! Thank you very much! Tim |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 01/24/11 at 09:01:32 rosswood wrote on 01/23/11 at 22:55:17:
Probably better due to the cold. It tends to keep things consistent and actually I find there is more grip than when it warms up and is greasy. I was like James, I just returned from Mexico, late on Tuesday night and needed to take care of things on the home front after being away. My wife and I had our first real vacation without the kids in over 10 years, so it was nice. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by CrazyLeo on 01/25/11 at 15:19:27 Not sure if the word got around, but we started experiencing engine problems at 4 AM - on the way to Bancroft... We had Sean come from Can-Jam with parts to try to fix at 7.30 AM, couldn't get it fixed. Too bad, next time. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Justadrive on 01/25/11 at 16:27:04 CrazyLeo wrote on 01/25/11 at 15:19:27:
Missed ya Leo! You would have had fun. The track was deep snow with little icy patches. See you at PN! :D Jeff Lehmann |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 01/26/11 at 07:46:10 Leo, meant to ask you last night at the AGM - did you get the car fixed? What was wrong? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by CrazyLeo on 01/26/11 at 10:48:18 rosswood wrote on 01/26/11 at 07:46:10:
Not fixed yet, motor dropped the valve... |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by dan sprongl on 01/26/11 at 14:58:21 I would like to send out a BIG Thank you to all the workers and organizers of the first Four Star Winter Rally Cross of 2011. Of course the competitors that also made the effort to go out and had a good weekend of it. Thanks and hope to see you at the next one. Daniel Sprongl Four Star Motorsports inc |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 01/27/11 at 19:15:41 January Update v3 Results Posted: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/Rallycross%20-%20JAN%2023rd_Web.pdf Thank you! Oh my god it was cold, and I thank all the workers for coming out and helping in what felt like -30, oh wait, it was. Febuary Event Please remember to sign up online, it really really helps me to get things sorted out before Sunday morning. Also, don't forget that the times have changed from last year, Registration opens at 0900 and the Drivers meeting is at 1000, this way we can try and get 6 runs in. Car Prep Rallycross does not mean you have to bring a full rally car. You can bring whatever you want but there are some items we will be looking for or request that you have:
Towing people out of the snow backs is all part of the fun, however if you find that you are in them more than racing, as I said in the second drivers meeting, take your time, take some presure out of the tyres and you will have more fun all round. Facebook: Don't forget that you can like the Rallycross page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MLRC-Rallycross-Championship/136207409735688 And join the Club group here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=26960690518 Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 01/29/11 at 16:06:42 I love how a 1998 dodge grand caravan was the 4th overall fastest... |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by jesse j on 01/29/11 at 16:21:22 Yopofun wrote on 01/29/11 at 16:06:42:
it was in the 4wheel drive class :S i didnt know those things could be 4 wheel drive. but the weight probobly played a factor in the outcome i think. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by mr_niteowl on 02/03/11 at 23:01:15 Yopofun wrote on 01/29/11 at 16:06:42:
That's not the reason. Dodge drivers are just better than the rest. Just ask James. Earle |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Donnie on 02/03/11 at 23:11:28 The older you boys get, the faster you were :) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by mr_niteowl on 02/03/11 at 23:34:00 Donnie wrote on 02/03/11 at 23:11:28:
Nice try Don, but in my case let it read: "The colder it gets, the more I hibernate" See you when it warms up a bit. Earle |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by tom on 02/04/11 at 11:46:04 mr_niteowl wrote on 02/03/11 at 23:34:00:
Earle so will be coming back out. when it gets warmer like in Feb. James have been saving # 13 for you |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 02/23/11 at 20:27:14 Checked out the course today in preparation for Sunday. There is still some snow left. It is very hard-packed with icy patches. Very small banks. We will be bringing in sand for Sunday to throw on the icy corners. Pictures to follow. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 02/23/11 at 20:50:07 February Update v1 REGISTER ONLINE..please Please remember to sign up online, it really really helps me to get things sorted out before Sunday morning. Also, don't forget that the times have changed from last year: Registration opens at 0900 Drivers meeting is at 1000 Lunch around 1300 (this way we can try and get 6 runs in) Car Prep As a reminder about car prep, I will be cracking down on this in a big way for the final three events of the year, so this is the last event where I will be giving only warnings. Please read the rules posted on at: www.mlrc.ca/rallycross We do get noise complaints, and keeping the residents of Bancroft happy is one of the biggest jobs by MLRC. If your car is loud, it will not run. Towing people out of the snow backs is all part of the fun, however if you find that you are in them more than racing, as I said in the second drivers meeting, take your time, take some pressure out of the tyres and you will have more fun all round. Facebook: Don't forget that you can like the Rallycross page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MLRC-Rallycross-Championship/136207409735688 And join the Club group here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=26960690518 Conditions: As Ross said, here are the pictures he took today at the Rallycross site   Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by jesse j on 02/23/11 at 21:48:36 the people that own the course, do they allow people to come and use the course when there isnt events going on at all? id really love a chance to go for a couple hours with a friend or 2 and just rip around the track for fun. we'd sign waivers of course. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 02/23/11 at 22:28:53 Absolutely no use of the course allowed except under our organized events. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by jesse j on 02/23/11 at 23:20:30 that sucks :P is there any local places to practice on? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Andrew Massey on 02/25/11 at 10:58:37 I'm looking forward to this weekend! This will be my first rallycross and it looks like a hell of a good time. Just one question. My full time racing vocation is karting, and I have a lap timer equipped with GPS which I was hoping to use on our rallycross car. It uses two beacons, one that needs to be placed on the start line and one on the finish line. Is this something that I'll be allowed to set up? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by 2000 Impreza on 02/25/11 at 16:10:19 If anyone sees a gray sti fog light cover laying around out there I lost one at the last event. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 02/25/11 at 18:17:57 2000 Impreza wrote on 02/25/11 at 16:10:19:
You can look for it yourself. No skipping out on a rallycross event! :P |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by jesse j on 02/25/11 at 22:52:30 Yopofun wrote on 02/25/11 at 18:17:57:
perhaps hes just saying incase somebody finds it before he does? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 02/28/11 at 10:18:23 Another great weekend out on the slippy course :D Just wanted to say thanks to all the people that volunteered and kept shoveling sand onto the course so we could get some grip :) Tim |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 02/28/11 at 15:59:02 Thanks, Tim. We will pass that on to the workers. My thinking in spreading the sand was that it would reduce the chances of people damaging their cars by going off the course and hitting frozen berms etc., it would also reduce time lost extricating cars that went off and got stuck plus it made the action quicker, which is more fun and makes better photos. Bottom line is it got everyone more runs in shorter than usual time. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by jotham on 02/28/11 at 16:09:11 It was a very good event. Well done to the organizers and volunteers! |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 02/28/11 at 19:30:18 February Update v2 Results are posted All the results are posted on the website, but here is the direct link: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/Rallycross%20-%20FEB%2027th_Web.pdf Championship Standings: These are also posted on the website, direct link: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/2011%20Championship%20Standing.pdf Facebook: Don't forget that you can like the Rallycross page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MLRC-Rallycross-Championship/136207409735688 And join the Club group here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=26960690518 Thank you: We were really short of the workers for sunday but it turned out that we did get loads of workers which is fantastic and I thank each and everyone of you. This meant that the day went very smoothly and we were able to get all 6 runs in!! Hopefully this will continue though the year. Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by tom on 03/02/11 at 13:58:00 Has any one posted any pictures of the rally cross of Feb 27th |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by steve roberts on 03/02/11 at 14:05:40 Hi Tom I posted a link to some photos in another thread here is a link to that thread http://www.mlrc.ca/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1299020076 Seeya Steve |
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Title: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 07/05/11 at 09:35:18 July Update v1 RACE THIS SUNDAY!! July has come quick, and with Rallye BDC last weekend it has come up quicker than I thought it would. Next event is this Sunday July 10th so hoping to see you all out there in force, but please do sign up online. It helps me out ordering the pizza, but you also get a discount. SIGN UP HERE: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/register/ Registration opens at 0900 Drivers meeting is at 1000 Lunch around 1300 Car Prep: I will be cracking down on this in a big way. Please read the rules posted on at: www.mlrc.ca/rallycross We do get noise complaints, and keeping the residents of Bancroft happy is one of the biggest jobs by MLRC. If your car is loud, it will not run. I will have a meter on site and will not let your car run (you will get a refund) Championship Standings: So to remind you where you all stand, direct link: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/2011%20Championship%20Standing.pdf Facebook: Don't forget that you can like the Rallycross page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MLRC-Rallycross-Championship/136207409735688 And join the Club group here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=26960690518 Workers: If you would like to help out on the day for $40 (and not be a racer) please let me know as we can always do with the help. Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 07/05/11 at 10:57:27 July Update v1.01 Facebook: Facebook Event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=224583680908803#!/event.php?eid=224583680908803 Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by tom on 07/13/11 at 13:48:29 James Drake wrote on 07/05/11 at 10:57:27:
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 07/16/11 at 18:04:14 July Update v2 Results Posted: Sorry for taking a while to do this, but my car is in the body shop and I left the results in the trunk. Direct link: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/Rallycross%20-%20July%2010th_web.pdf SIGN UP HERE: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/register/ Please sign up for the next two events, it helps out so much and saves me a lot of time in the morning. Car loudness: Thank you all for keeping your car quiet on the day. We did have a meter on site and no one really went over to much. Championship Standings: I need some time to sort these out, but I will post soon. Facebook: Don't forget that you can like the Rallycross page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MLRC-Rallycross-Championship/136207409735688 And join the Club group here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=26960690518 There will be an official FB Event nearer the time. Workers: I can never thank you enough for coming out and helping, you really make the day happen. THANK YOU! (and I am sure the $40 helps ;) ) RALLYCROSS CONCERNS: I have a few: First off, at the drivers meeting I said that I wanted to get for sure 6 runs, and it would be up to you if you wanted 7. 7 Runs is only possible with support of YOU! You have to be lined up ready to go, cameras on, belts done up, windows up, helmets on and in gear when the car in front of you starts their run! It is not hard to do this, there are numbers on your cars and we run in order. PLEASE PLEASE try and be on time for your run. Secondly, I have heard that there was someone riding on the back of a car going from the service area to the track. And guess what? They fell off and hurt themselves. Lets not be idiots, this sport is dangerous enough so lets try and keep as safe as possible. Rule Changes: Some new rules / Sub Reqs will be in place for September and going forward:
I understand that these might sound harsh. Rules and safety items are in place to keep events smoothly and with no one getting hurt. If you want events like these to stay alive, we have to stay alive. Simple. Timing Equipment: We rented this from RSO after their very costly purchase. I believe it really helped out from a organizers perspective. But I would love to hear what you thought? Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by kella007 on 08/06/11 at 06:24:39 The rally was great..! the organizers had done really well.. wanna see more pics.. Cheers..! ;) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by RyanHuber on 08/27/11 at 21:04:44  Be afraid class 1, be very afraid! |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by 83camoblazer on 08/29/11 at 08:49:11 what kind of car is this? Cage eh? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 08/29/11 at 20:45:50 Looks to me like a little green Hyundai that I might have seen a few times. ;) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 09/07/11 at 20:20:10 September Update v1 Entry Open: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/register/ Please sign up for the next event, it helps out so much and saves me a lot of time in the morning. Ride with CrazyLeo: As a special treat, CrazyLeo will be on site all day for rides. We haven't fully got the logistics worked out, but you will be able to ride with one of Canada's best and fastest growing rally drivers. This will be in aid of a local Bancroft Charity, so donations will be taken. More information to come on this. Facebook: Don't forget that you can like the Rallycross page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MLRC-Rallycross-Championship/136207409735688 Facebook Event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=234008819997048 And join the Club group here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=26960690518 Workers: If you would like to help out and make $40, please let me know. Timing of the day: Registration will open at 0900 Resistration will close at 0945 Drivers meeting at 1000 Lunch will be after the first 3 stages 2 stages after lunch Concerns from July: Last month we had plenty of time to have 7 runs, however people where not on time to the starting line and we only got 5 runs. PLEASE be on time and lined up for your run! Rule Changes: Some new rules / Sub Reqs will be in place for September and going forward:
I understand that these might sound harsh. Rules and safety items are in place to keep events smoothly and with no one getting hurt. If you want events like these to stay alive, we have to stay alive. Simple. Looking forward to seeing you all very soon!! Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 09/07/11 at 21:55:15 September Update v1.01 New Rules:
Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by TomH on 09/20/11 at 07:58:38 James, you should mention to competitors about open windows. I lot of times I will see the passenger window open on the first run. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 09/23/11 at 20:15:17 Spent most of yesterday working on the course - put 35 tons of stone and limestone screenings into the corners. It's in the best shape now that it has ever been. There is a bit of rain in the forecast - no problem - it will improve the track, not hurt it - no dust and the surface will be tougher. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Jason K on 09/23/11 at 23:22:15 I'm excited to hear that about the course. I can't wait to run it this Sunday. Now, to not destroy the car before the end of the day is another story. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 09/25/11 at 19:49:25 Excellent day of RallyCross - amazing weather, 35 entries, good competition. Bummer to those who had mechanical issues, especially some so early on. Thanks to all the volunteers for doing a great job. Three more people trained on the electronic timing system. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by tom on 09/26/11 at 05:09:42 Hey you guys did a great job on the course. It was a great day and I had a blast. Tom rosswood wrote on 09/25/11 at 19:49:25:
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by christiaan on 10/02/11 at 15:37:09 When are the results going to be up ? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 10/08/11 at 09:11:42 October Update v0.1 Beta Results: I know these are a little late, but I if you would like to be my executive assistant I am looking for a new one: September Results: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/Rallycross%20-%20Sep%2025th_web.pdf Championship Standings: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/2011%20Championship%20Standing%20-%2008102011.pdf Looking at the standings, Jeff L has wrapped up Class One, but every other position is still up for grabs! Thank you James |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 10/17/11 at 14:22:51 Weather looks promising for the weekend. More rain before then though. I have a trailer lined up, so I guess I can beat on the poor old Outback hard this weekend. James or Ross, any issue if I tow the trailer down Sat. morning for the work day and leave the truck and trailer at the Fish and Game club? I am planning on driving the Subaru for the work day and on the rally-X. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 10/19/11 at 07:04:37 that should be fine Dave. ps...Fish and Game Club. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 10/19/11 at 09:03:49 James Drake wrote on 10/19/11 at 07:04:37:
Thanks James - edit done to name of club! |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 10/23/11 at 05:16:44 Anyone coming to the Rally-X today This may be a waste of my time, but I am in Bancroft already and I forgot my helmet. Anyone have an XL or larger helmet that they can let me borrow? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 10/23/11 at 21:02:09 Well I found a helmet - thanks Sean. The drive home was fun - During the rally-X, I managed to rip-off the entire exhaust system from the cats right to the tailpipe! 4 hours of a completely unmuffled 2.5L boxer at full song. Taking two Advil and heading to bed! |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 10/23/11 at 21:28:35 October Update v1 Results: Look at me....on the ball!! October Results: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/Rallycross%20-%20Oct%2023rd_web.pdf Championship Standings: http://www.mlrc.ca/rallycross/results/2011/2011%20Championship%20Standing%20-%2023102011.pdf Awesome all round! Thank you: A massive thank you to everyone that had competed and worked at this years Four Star Rallycross Championship! I think that this has been a fantastic year all round. The course just gets better and better every month. A big thank you to:
Looking forward into 2012: There will once again be changes. New Rules, New times, New track layouts, New Classes, New Website! I like to mix it up and keep you on your toes! New James.......I Wish! Thanks for a great year! James oh and PS: Jan 22nd, Feb 26th, Jul 8th, Sep 23rd, Oct 21st |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 10/24/11 at 09:17:46 James, Well done on getting all the results next day! I'd also like to send a huge thanks to you and all the other people who have put on another fantastic year of the MLRC Rally-x. Looking forward to, what I'm sure are even better improvements, for next year! :D Tim |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by BTDT on 10/26/11 at 14:35:50 http://www.bancroftthisweek.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3347444 Check this out. Just appeared on the on-line edition of Bancroft this Week about the rallycross this past weekend. Well done! Donna |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 11/12/11 at 21:16:21 Dave Cotie wrote on 10/23/11 at 21:02:09:
Thanks to the students and technician in our welding program (the exhaust was broken cleanly at the entry to the 2nd cat) and $12 worth of parts from CT, I have the exhaust back on the car :). Just have to wait for the new O2 sensor to come in from the US. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Yopofun on 11/17/11 at 15:46:34 Now lets see if we can get some more dedication next year for even more heated battles! Only two people made it out to all 4 events :-? |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Justadrive on 03/16/12 at 19:39:54 Yopofun wrote on 01/21/11 at 14:16:23:
OK, So 2011 is over. Awards are finished and I have a few things to point out or rather suggest: To the comment "Oh just get some AWD"............
So, many have asked why did you sell your car? It was partly due to finances and I stress partly. But there were many more factors involved. First off the drive to Bancroft. 4 hrs from where I live. That's a long haul to just RallyCross. If it was on a Saturday that would be better just in case of a severe issue one could overnight and get home the next day. I have never been to another RallyCross location but seriously there has to be another place somewhere in Ontario??? Secondly, The course is brutal to say the least. If you want to go hard to win then you MUST push your car to the max. The ruts, the stones etc are one that require rally suspension struts and tires. Yes people will argue that they run OE struts... sure pull them apart after 3 events and lets see how well those struts compress and rebound. guaranteed they are done. My plans were to gradually build my car to Rally. I was in that process having HD Bilstein suspension, coilover springs, and was only running gravel tires.I also upgraded my brakes. My car was fast and in the hands of a Rally driver it would have seen times 3-6 seconds faster per stage. But I was trying to build a serious FWD Naturally Aspirated car that I could Afford to build and run. If not Rally then RallyCross. RallyCross is not fun anymore. It's the same old thing over and over. Almost half the cars going out are destroyed. I personally have witnessed 2 rollovers and only with LUCK nobody was hurt!!! There have been more as well. I can only strongly suggest to the MLRC president and RallyCross organizer that the course be moved elsewhere (and I mean at more than 1 location). Many RallyCross events across North America are on fields. How simple. On a field there are so many more advantages than the course we run now. 1. The course would be flat making it easier on suspension, tires, rims, and little chance of rollover. One should be able to bring their new 2012 STi, EVO, Civic, or Sonic and be able to run for a day on all season tires and drive home and just worry about washing their car and nothing else! 2. The course can be different each time. Set it up with pilons of course. There would also be no obstacles like the trees rocks etc at the Bancroft Course. AND we can make it interesting..... Bancroft's course is well..... boring after 3 years of racing on it! 3. Having it a different locations west / central / east of GTA allows for more competitors to come. 4. There will be more drivers finishing and continuing racing by being able to bring a car to the next event. 5. Have a Class 5. This is meant for Rally Drivers for test'n'tune. Great way to let them test their cars and have more attendance as well. Remember this is meant to be an entry sport to Rallying. A place where people can take a street car and go have fun. If MLRC makes these changes and works hard to try to obtain new locations this sport will grow tremendously! Being that I am not competing at this point please do not think I am sitting here complaining. I am just pointing out facts from a competitors point of view. And since I have time on my hands now YES I will step up and assist in this endeavor! |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dave Cotie on 03/16/12 at 23:15:42 Jeff, I personally have seen a number of threads on a number of websites from people who have found the "perfect" place to rally cross. They think they have everything lined up and then when they tell the owner what they are going to do - NO WAY! Right now MLRC is probably happy that they have somewhere. I think a number of people have tried to find places closer to the GTA and have failed. It probably would draw more people, but for me it would actually be a longer drive. I am sure that if you find somewhere for a rally-X to run, people would embrace it. I too have sold my rally-X car and I am not sure that I will rally-X its replacement as I plan to DD it. I think the track may be a victim of the success of the program. It is mostly a sand base and by the time 40 cars get 6 runs in a day, even with DNF's it is probably seeing 200 runs. Plus the fact that to get those 6 runs, they probably only get 1 or 2 chances to re-grade the track, it ends up being pretty rough. The last time I ran, I tore up my exhaust system, however with the mileage on the car, I do know that the first flange that broke was already pretty rusty. I ran 3 times and have run my Outback over the Black Bear roads and was still running on stock Outback (KYB) struts. They were still fine when i sold the car. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Justadrive on 03/17/12 at 08:50:08 Dave Cotie wrote on 03/16/12 at 23:15:42:
Dave, I agree "they (MLRC)" is happy they have a place. No "work" is required. They just have to go there, set-up, run the event and leave. Simple, they are inside as well warm and toasty. Bathrooms, place to eat etc... all great stuff. Regards to suspension lasting..... You were lucky and some suspension will last longer... risk of bending or breaking suspension there... It happens all day every event! On a field I doubt it will ever happen to anyone! Makes the sport less expensive. Personally I would drive another 2 hrs away to a field where I could almost guarantee myself that I am driving home with ZERO issues. The point is simple.... its too easy for the MLRC club to set up where it is now so they are leaving it there. They really do not care about the carnage to the cars and the cost involved by the drivers to keep up the repairs. IF MLRC wants drivers back and obtain new drivers and get 100 people there per event then they MUST look at another venue. And just because you fail in finding a place does NOT mean you should stop looking. Thanks for posting your comments... :) |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 03/17/12 at 23:31:12 Jeff, We would love to find a RallyCross course closer to the GTA and would love to have a variety of courses and would love to have smooth courses. All of this we have been trying to accomplish for over 20 years. It is extremely difficult. Since I set up the first RX course in Ontario in Bridgenorth in the early 1980's, I know of at least 10 courses that have come and gone - none have lasted more than three years other than the current course for a wide variety of reasons. Most common problem is loss of permission because landowners get hassled by neighbours, by the municipality, decide they are getting nothing out of it etc etc. Every club that has tried it has given up except MLRC - again for a variety of reasons - too much work, too much expense, too much hassle. And you are totally wrong about it being simple for MLRC - for every day we run a RX up in Bancroft I average three days up there supervising work on the course. MLRC has spent over $10,000 on that course so far, believe it or not. If you think you can just run on a field, you are totally wrong. You have to constantly be working on it, because no matter what course you use, it gets torn up. We are extremely fortunate to have such strong support from the Town of Bancroft in providing the machinery to work on the course. The ideal venue is a large gravel pit. We have had a couple and almost had a couple more, but invariably lose them, usually because they are pressured by neighbours and community to stop allowing the Rallycrosses. I have had at least 20 people tell me they know of a great site, but not one has ever panned out. Provide us with a lead and I guarantee that we will follow up on it. We are very fortunate to have what we have in Bancroft. Until something better shows up, perhaps serious competitors will have to pony up for suspension and tires. Pretty cheap investment really. Meanwhile the Rallycrosses are serving their main purpose beautifully - to provide an inexpensive opportunity for grassroots experience that leads into performance rally. Take a look at how many of the RX drivers have moved up. That and the continued high entry numbers speaks for itself. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by Dweeb on 03/18/12 at 02:20:27 Ross makes very good points. Setting up a Rally-x is not as simple as people make it out to be, and finding a location where people will not complain is next to impossible. I would like to thank Ross and rest of the organizers for putting these events on. Using “Golton SS stage” as a rally-x is a good idea, but as some mentioned becomes very rough after 2 rounds, and is really bad in certain spots by end of the day. Having gravel rally tires is the best solution for this (used gravel tires can be picked up for cheap), and they will last you for many years of rally-x’s. Skid plate is also highly recommended. Actual rally suspension is not needed. I have been running stock suspension (struts) for all rally-x’s. Using the Golton SS has a side benefit, as you can “kind of” compare your times against actual Rally cars from Tall Pines. (yes, I know there are few differences between the Rally-x and the actual SS stage) Here are my 2 cents on current rally-x. The summer rally-x events are great, can be very, very dusty on certain days, but generally they are great. However the winter events (as someone mentioned) need to change! The track is plowed very narrow, and after one round you were basically a rail-car, driving/following a set of tracks between snow banks. NOT FUN !! And, if you get out of the tracks, you are most likely stuck in a snow bank, followed by 30 minutes of NOT FUN for anyone till you get pulled out. In the winter events the track should be plowed at least 2 widths of a car or wider, so you can go sideways (remember we are there to have fun and drive sideways), and not drive in ruts. At least I am anyway. Then you have the 6 hour “there and back” commute, to drive five 1 minute rounds in snow ruts, IMHO it’s not really worth it. I stopped going to the winter events for that reason. One of the complaints I heard from few competitors was that they were unhappy with the same starting order in some of the events. They had a high starting number and were near the end of every run. By the time their turn came up, the course was destroyed no matter when it was fixed between runs. They didn’t go back for another event for this reason. Yes, it’s an excuse, and you can’t please everyone, but they do have a point on that. How about rotating the starting order, something like, 1st round start at car 1. 2nd round start at car 11. 3rd round start at car 21…etc. and this would solve that particular issue. We used to do that years ago. I personally preferred the old Gravel Pit in L’Amable. I am talking the actual gravel pit where we used to run the Rally-x’s in the late 90’s and early 2000’s, and not the back parking lot area where the Tall Pines service is now. In the pit, we had different track/route combinations, this also made it a bit more interesting. Plus having a 2 day event (Saturday and Sunday) was better. You got way more runs in ;D . I also want the old winter Drive-X’s series back, ya, Ross, this is me wishing ::) . |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by rosswood on 03/18/12 at 09:39:01 Thanks for the good comments. Things we can fairly easily change at Golton: (1) more variety of course layout and direction - will mean slightly more down time between runs. Will also mean spending a bit more money making course changes and a minor change in the Finish Timing eqpt needed (just a longer wire - maybe $75). (2) wider plowing in winter - BTW the deal is that the Town of Bancroft provides the equipment and fuel and we pay the operator. So that would mean a bit more time required from the operator and thus a bit more expense. Also slightly more down time between runs. (3) more change in the running order - a no brainer, no downsider as I see it. (4) It might be possible to return to the old pit for some of the RX days. I will check that out. The reason we gave it up was because it was so soft and required a lot of course fixup between runs. It is on Town of Bancroft property, so getting permission and the other perks should not be an issue. (5) James is already considering a full weekend special event. I don't want anyone to get the idea that we are not looking for other venues. We continue to do that. We have one that is halfway ready for us and want us, but have not finished building the course - kind of got stalled in the project. I will talk to them again. You cannot underestimate the very important positives about the Bancroft venue(s). The support we get from the Town of Bancroft and the Golton property owners is HUGE and would cost us a lot of dollars if we went elsewhere. We have negotiated with other commercial property owners, but their fees for use of the property were way too high and would have put RX fees beyond grassroots level activity. We are trying to keep RX entry fees as low as possible. I assure you that this is NOT a major money-maker for MLRC and all individuals involved are giving their time purely on a volunteer basis. You must also understand that almost all of the Bancroft benefits are riding on the coattails of the Tall Pines Rally. Because it provides such huge economic benefit to the area, we get the support for the RX. Also you have to understand that about half the money we currently spend on the RX track comes from Tall Pines budget indirectly via RSO road damage repairs. I assure you the Tall Pines is not going to move anywhere else closer to Toronto in the near future. |
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Title: Re: 2011 FourStar MLRC Rallycross Championship Post by English on 03/18/12 at 13:16:16 Please continue this conversation on the 2012 Can-Jam Rallycross Champion thread for RX locations going forward. Thank you. James |
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