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In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
11/25/8 at 08:00:05

In car of the Planet Motorsport/Williams Rally Racing Subaru is up!

SS1 - Good clean run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPTWPYYI1P8

SS2 - Caught up to Burke where Block went off, followed for half the stage, excuse the expletives, I was pisseed that he didnt have any brake lights!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs5SkKlXAIg

SS3 - Good clean run, cautios at first then flat out until we spun at the Iron Bridge, the tires were DONE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSnW8o3Zkw

SS4 - Good run, brake pedal started to stick half way through, couldnt left foot brake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ln63zYgDE

SS5 - Spectator stage, no notes as Ryan was puking, took it easyish, brake pedal still sticking, on 3 wheel studs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGvsQnrXtEw

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Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
Reply #1 - 11/25/8 at 10:35:23

That's awesome stuff John.....

Ryan, switch to decaf buddy!! hahaha...

Great to see the races from your perspective guys, we spent a good 4 hours cleaning up the peanut, and it was pretty crazy even in pickup's, that was funny at the washout "This is the worst one, I can't even SLOW DOWN!!"

That water was DEEP!

Was good to see that spin out at iron bridge from your perspective, I know that Tweeter (in the silver pickup) had to clean his seat after that, you spun out pretty close to him.

Regarding his brake lights, I know that even though we are not required to check them - but we did check everyone's brake lights at tech, so something must have gone wrong after he left...

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RyanHuber God Member Offline Posts: 709 Ontario	Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines Reply #2 - 11/25/8 at 15:46:32 Rumour has it that he had them disconnected, post tech. Yeah, nice guy...
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Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
Reply #3 - 11/25/8 at 15:48:43

RyanHuber wrote on 11/25/8 at 15:46:32:

Rumour has it that he had them disconnected, post tech. Yeah, nice guy...

Why would someone do that? PLEASE don't tell me this is some stupid "extra lights eat fuel" argument...

I will re-check the video I have of his car going past me on 5 and 7, because most people braked going up the hill.

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Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
Reply #4 - 11/25/8 at 15:55:07

I would think you'd do it for exactly the reason in the video. If someone catches you it'll totally throw them off if they can't tell when you're braking.

They inquired and got a 1m20s time allowance for stopping at Block's crash. As you can see, they were leaving just as we got there, so really they were only stopped for 1 minute. The other 20 seconds was spent holding us up...

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grinthock_justin YaBB Newbies Offline Rally Time/Track Control Posts: 34 Bolton, ON	Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines Reply #5 - 11/25/8 at 15:57:58 I don't have video of his rear - but i have photos, and he didn't have his brake lights on going up the hill on A5 past quarry rd either. Which is impossible, there's no way he went up that hill and didn't brake. That's BS, too many people could get hurt.
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Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
Reply #6 - 11/25/8 at 16:10:43

Well... Pat Richard left the last service with only one working brake light... and each light is made up of multiple LED's. So I'm assuming the wiring got knocked off his light during a service.

Perhaps Burke had a wiring problem...
-dead switch
-hit the switch/wiring and damaged it
-blown fuse
-damaged harness.

Did anyone tell him that none of his brake lights worked?

I had a brake light switch fail once... the car had a fault and whenever I started driving it, after hitting the brakes for the first time, an indicator would come on to tell me I had a burnt out bulb (even though they all worked). The only reason I knew my brake switch had quit working... the faulty indicator failed to come on one day!

I've driven behind lots of cars with only 1 working light, and behind several with no working brake lights at all!

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Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
Reply #7 - 11/25/8 at 16:19:27

you know "old time" rallyists use to have a switch hidden someplace for the brake lights...

if someone would catch them, they would flip the switch, and screw up the following car!

It actually works if the following driver hasn't done any wheel-to-wheel experience.

If this is the case, and he's reading, he's probably pissing himself laughing, because it worked!

Having said that....last year at pines, when i did tech, i had working brake lights. But noticed that in pictures and videos they were never on...investigated and sure enough the brake switch on the pedal box had broken!

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Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
Reply #8 - 11/25/8 at 16:29:00

i'm not sure if it was on purpose and I was mad at the time, but what made it worse was the snow dust, make his car that much harder to see and judge where he was...I was not pushing close to him most times as there is no room to pass there without going off the road and that stage you do not want to go off the road! Ive had problems with lights before too, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I did tell his codriver and he seemed surprised

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grinthock_justin YaBB Newbies Offline Rally Time/Track Control Posts: 34 Bolton, ON	Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines Reply #9 - 11/25/8 at 16:36:41 Now that I've read this thread i'll be sure to put it on my little list of things I like to check during tech, doesn't take long to peek under at the brake switch and look for a splice
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Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
Reply #10 - 11/25/8 at 16:38:35

grinthock_justin wrote on 11/25/8 at 16:36:41:

Now that I've read this thread i'll be sure to put it on my little list of things I like to check during tech, doesn't take long to peek under at the brake switch and look for a splice

Don't bother...if someone is going to go to ALL that trouble..you really think they are going to hide it right under the dash in "plain view"?

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Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines
Reply #11 - 11/25/8 at 16:40:46

Do_It_Sidewayz wrote on 11/25/8 at 16:38:35:

grinthock_justin wrote on 11/25/8 at 16:36:41:

Now that I've read this thread i'll be sure to put it on my little list of things I like to check during tech, doesn't take long to peek under at the brake switch and look for a splice

Don't bother...if someone is going to go to ALL that trouble..you really think they are going to hide it right under the dash in "plain view"?

Probably true... That's BS regardless...

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nhibbert Full Member Offline Posts: 189	Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines Reply #12 - 11/25/8 at 18:36:56 John - Should have just driven right on his ass and punted him off the road at a corner. "Sorry mate, couldn't see your tail lights"
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C. Hamm Full Member Offline Will rally for free. Posts: 165	Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines Reply #13 - 11/25/8 at 21:20:05 If you suspect something is dodgy why not lodge an inquiry about the fitness of their car at the next service? Did you? Otherwise, the problem can be repeated throughout the rally. Anyway, nice driving John.
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mattman_4444 YaBB Newbies Offline [url]http://operator wear.ca[/url] Posts: 33	Re: In car from car #6 at Tall Pines Reply #14 - 11/26/8 at 09:55:04 At 6:30 in the vid where you are stuck behind that car, what happened to Block? It's hard to see in the vid, but I'm guessing he went off on the left into those evergreens? Was it a nasty off?
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