As far as I know, there are no restrictions on numbers for service crew.  If there were, they would be on a per-event basis, and published in the sup. regs.  I believe there is a restriction on number of service vehicles in the service area... to cut down on people hogging all the space.

Example... I crewed a US event for ACP a few years back that limited the number of people allowed to "touch" the car at any one time.  Didn't mean I couldn't be helping out, but I was restricted to specific areas, like the service truck grabbing parts/tools/etc... while others worked on the car.

Donnie wrote on 07/19/10 at 19:40:51:

No need to worry.  There's no limit on service crew in the CARS rules.

Good job on finding four crew, though.  

Donnie wrote on 07/19/10 at 19:40:51:

Is this your co-driver's first rally, too?

I'll be running with Alexei Stapinski in his Scirocco.  He's seed 6 as well (he's an experienced co-driver, but it's his first rally as driver), so we should be pretty close in the running order.  Don't be shy about asking for help if you need it.  With two co-drivers in the car, we should be able to help you figure out how to calculate your in-time or set the factor in your rally computer.  

BTW - I should probably clarify my last post: there's no limit on the number of people in your service crew, but the supp regs request that each crew only have one service vehicle in the service area.

The supp regs don't give a specific limit for the number of cars your crew brings up and parks outside the service area, but they do say that parking at Rally HQ is going to be tight.

Jamie,

Will i understand your concerns, i do not entirely agree with your solutions.

Firstly i couldn't agree with you more with regard to service crews, my attitude is "go fast comes last", that meaning that i insist that my service crew looks at the car is if they were doing a Safety/Certification for the most part, anything questionable, in steering, brakes, mounting points etc, is tossed if we don't have the parts or its beyond our means/control, we pull out, there's dignity in that

On your second point. A properly prepared crew, seed 6 or not, should be able to get through a race, if they are indeed "prepared". My co-driver and myself  have worked very hard to get to this point, Rally School, research, endless questions to good people with Rally experience.This is the time to apply what we have learned, to something that we truly enjoy... "RALLY". We're not out to set the world on fire at GCFR, and I'm certainly not going out to drive a car beyond its limits, yes we have limitations, but we'll work within them.

Jamie if you truly wish to be to of any help/assistance to Rally in Ontario you'll find yourself at GCFR  offering it up, as opposed to "petitioning a CARS rule change to disallow a crew from being both seed 6". Your experience may well be more of a solution than a "Rule" change.

Hope to see you at GCFR..
Don Morton

I am not sure not allowing new teams (both 6) to run is best of ideas.

Bryce and I ran this year at Lanark our first event ever and we did not really push it and felt somewhat overwhelmed at times by what was expected of us, we did not make any timing errors, and we finished the event (the first one at least) with ok times and had some great fun.  We were very lucky in the fact that Bruce Leonard helped us allot by mentoring us.  But I found in general anyone we had asked questions to in the community would answer without hesitation...

I think training the seeds sixes better via mentoring or a performance novice school might be a better idea then not allowing them to run.

Derek

Thank you Pete, that clarifies where the extra vehicles need to be.We want to try to be as accommodating/respectful as we can to the event  coordinators as well as other competitors.A service area map will clear up allotted space questions ,when it is posted.

Hey Don,

Didn't mean to hijack your thread, sorry.

Very good to hear that you guys have done your homework - and you seem to take the same 'fun first, fast later' approach as me... Its the way to go. I might be slow as heck, but I do have a lot of fun

Things like the RSO co-driver course etc are a great thing - but not required, so its very hard to know who has done the legwork - I've seen people at their first event who clearly didn't read the rule book, as is evidenced by things like poor/inappropriate triangle placement, violation of procedures in fueling zones, plus if you're the car in front, you want to know for sure the car behind you understands the procedures for more serious incidents. Rally America does something along the lines of this - plus having an experienced co-driver means you have many less things to worry about (and there are many!). In any case, very good to hear you're making a solid effort to make sure you're doing your best to be well prepared - you'll do great.

Galway is a VERY beginner friendly rally - and a very fun road to boot (my absolute favourite), very well organized, compact route etc. You'll have fun, trust me

I have yet to entirely perfect being in multiple places at once, but if I get it working reliably by Galway...