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Reply #30 - 02/17/11 at 10:57:47
 
I think part of the issue here is that with the turn-out last year (42? in Oct.) it would be hard to tech every event.

Do what the ice racers do tech once a year and require people to show up early if they need tech.

I would volunteer to tech vehicles. I would just have to leave North Bay at 4 am instead of 6 am!  Grin
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Reply #31 - 02/17/11 at 14:11:59
 
I've been following this discussion for the past couple days and would like to say I really like the direction and ideas that are coming from it, ie a Saturday event/Rally Sprint on the back roads and the addition of car inspections.

For the rally sprint, it would be nice to see the event held on a different track/course as mentioned earlier. I know it was mentioned as a one time event, but a separate series for it would be nice. So then you could have MLRC RallyCross, MLRC RallySprint and MLRC TallPines.

For the RallySprint, I'd fully agree on enhanced security measures, but as it would be a stepping stone to stage events, but I would not like to see the requirement of a full roll cage, just to keep it more open to drivers. If you make the requirements to strict, you won't get the required amount of cars, which cut the income from the event, causing it to cost more to the racers.

For the vehicle inspection at the rallycross, maybe a mandatory inspection for the first event you participate in each year? That would probably be the January event, for most members, which may annoy the inspection techs, as they'd be stuck out in the cold Tongue

Anyway, that's just my input. You may carry on now.

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Reply #32 - 02/18/11 at 19:17:10
 
I have been following this discussion and one thing that appears to me is that very few have read the CARS regulations concerning RallyCross and RallySprint. These regs can be found on CARS web site while 2011 rules are not posted as yet the 2010 version cover Cross and Sprint.

You will see these are distinctly different style of events

That there is a very defined ruleset that organizers are required to follow.

While I would like to see rules on RallySprint revert to the rules of several years ago. However nothing is going to happen unless YOU Apply to your Region RSO President and ask that he request CARS to change the rules. You need to state what changes you would like to see etc.

Posting in any Forum is not a request thats just a discussion location

You could also attend the RSO AGM March 19th and raise your request at that time. Again you must know exactly what you are asking for, so read the rules first

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Reply #33 - 02/19/11 at 10:38:11
 
Yopofun wrote on 02/17/11 at 14:11:59:
I've been following this discussion for the past couple days and would like to say I really like the direction and ideas that are coming from it, ie a Saturday event/Rally Sprint on the back roads and the addition of car inspections.

For the rally sprint, it would be nice to see the event held on a different track/course as mentioned earlier. I know it was mentioned as a one time event, but a separate series for it would be nice. So then you could have MLRC RallyCross, MLRC RallySprint and MLRC TallPines.

For the RallySprint, I'd fully agree on enhanced security measures, but as it would be a stepping stone to stage events, but I would not like to see the requirement of a full roll cage, just to keep it more open to drivers. If you make the requirements to strict, you won't get the required amount of cars, which cut the income from the event, causing it to cost more to the racers.

For the vehicle inspection at the rallycross, maybe a mandatory inspection for the first event you participate in each year? That would probably be the January event, for most members, which may annoy the inspection techs, as they'd be stuck out in the cold Tongue

Anyway, that's just my input. You may carry on now.

Tim


The rules for rallyX were very carefully thought out to allow for the maximum amount of enjoyment (e.g. speed) while still remaining relatively safe for regular street cars. Any change in format that increased the speeds will require an increase in safety equipment (i.e. roll cage).

Personally I'd like to see something like a hillclimb in Ontario, although finding a suitable location might be hard. Forks-of-the-Credit might be a good road, but I imagine getting permission to use it would be next to impossible.

Also; you forgot MLRC BlackBear.
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Reply #34 - 02/19/11 at 15:05:38
 
I also have been watching this thread from the outside. I only hope that all of the people that would like to see another event or events show their support when something gets put together. It is a big challenge to organize something from the ground up. Their are people out there right now in the process of trying to get things off the ground to get more racing in any form. Just please remember this and support those people when it is ready to go.


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Reply #35 - 02/19/11 at 20:51:53
 
corywannamaker wrote on 02/19/11 at 15:05:38:
I also have been watching this thread from the outside. I only hope that all of the people that would like to see another event or events show their support when something gets put together. It is a big challenge to organize something from the ground up. Their are people out there right now in the process of trying to get things off the ground to get more racing in any form. Just please remember this and support those people when it is ready to go.


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In for penny in for a pound Cory !!!  Follow our progress with a new Rallycross venue on Facebook @ LiveFlatOut. Once we get some ground thaw all hell's gonna break loose.
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Reply #36 - 02/25/11 at 07:49:55
 
Donnie

I new rallyX venue would be fantastic.

There have been a few attempts to get other facilities going over the past few years, but they've all run into legal (municipal zoning) issues or they've been too unsafe. There was one course set up a few years ago north of Barrie that was great except it was very hilly, which meant cars could roll very easily. It would have been fine for Rallysprint rules (i.e. caged cars), but not for rallyX (i.e. street cars).  

I'm looking forward to see what you guys come up with.
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Reply #37 - 02/25/11 at 08:31:47
 
Indeed it would be great to find another good site, especially one closer to Toronto. We have been trying for many years with no luck. They are either unsuitable for a course and will not comply with CARS RX Regulations i.e. too hilly, obstacles such as trees too close etc or the surface was not suitable - too sandy, clay base (too slippery when wet) etc.

We tried with several existing motorsport facilities, but they wanted too much money for us to run a grassroots type program.

Several gave permission but municipal zoning and/or complaints from neighbours shut them down.

Hope you come up with something, guys.
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Reply #38 - 02/25/11 at 10:51:43
 
Has anyone ever approached Mosport for this kind of thing? I know there is a TON of space in the infield of the big track to make a half-decent special stage.

It is sandy.... but I'm sure the minds here could think of something.
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Reply #39 - 02/25/11 at 10:55:20
 
yeah I have a couple of differnet places in mind for a rallyx and  for a rally sprint. It is a big under taking as most of you already know but I think that it will be worth it in the end. Just trying to get more people and more exposure for the sport and motorspors in general through the website and through more events of all kinds. I will keep working on ideas and with the help of Don and others we will get somthing going I am sure of it. We have to start somewhere and work our way to bigger and better events. LFO is always open to new ideas and advice so please don't hesitate to contact me and let me know what you want or what you are looking for.

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Reply #40 - 02/25/11 at 10:56:21
 
Andrew Massey wrote on 02/25/11 at 10:51:43:
Has anyone ever approached Mosport for this kind of thing? I know there is a TON of space in the infield of the big track to make a half-decent special stage.

It is sandy.... but I'm sure the minds here could think of something.


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